tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post4770825862809544246..comments2024-03-03T22:24:13.350-08:00Comments on VerizonMath: 12-14-2006 - Verizon still quoting .002 cents!George Vaccarohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15304125791379242960noreply@blogger.comBlogger166125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-447234252973993012011-10-06T12:45:11.199-07:002011-10-06T12:45:11.199-07:00The answer in in a simple matter of conversion.
3...The answer in in a simple matter of conversion.<br /><br />35500 KB multiplied by rate<br /><br />.002 cents / 1 KB<br /><br />to convert cents to dollars, multiply by rate<br /><br />1 dollar / 100 cents.<br /><br />By doing this, kilobytes cancel, cents cancel, leaving the answer in dollars. The entire conversion is as follows:<br /><br />35500 KB x .002 cents / 1 KB x 1 dollar / 100 cents = .71 dollars or 71 cents. <br /><br />Verizon was quoting .002 dollars and never converting cents into dollars. In Latin, this is called "ignoramus".<br /><br />Don SDon Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01942556663408703697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-31560479331248138742011-04-07T15:33:02.206-07:002011-04-07T15:33:02.206-07:00The problem the guy had is everyone at Verizon rea...The problem the guy had is everyone at Verizon reads this number $0.002 as "point zero zero two cents". That is not the right way to read the number. They should say "point zero zero two DOLLARS" or "point two cents" or "two tenths of a cent" or "two thousandths of a dollar". When talking about money, people are simply used to calling the part after the decimal point "cents", but that doesn't work when reading the decimal point, like reading $1.23 as "one dollar and POINT two three cents".FishDawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16853853046869369947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-1512686174569217992011-01-16T15:33:06.036-08:002011-01-16T15:33:06.036-08:00I just talked to an online Sprint person, and they...I just talked to an online Sprint person, and they quoted me .05 CENTS per MB. "Wow, that's not a bad deal at all" I said snidely to myself--as I took a screenshot. <br /><br />Idiots.ladym00shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15465314308211066390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-66722905709985059032011-01-16T12:13:18.647-08:002011-01-16T12:13:18.647-08:00As a .Net developer, I am wondering if I could get...As a .Net developer, I am wondering if I could get a System.VerizonMath library. I think it'd be hilarious!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-5770826826898307742010-10-20T15:11:43.722-07:002010-10-20T15:11:43.722-07:00I just called and asked them what the data transfe...I just called and asked them what the data transfer fee was in canada, and they quoted $.002 to me! Which is odd, because I stated at the outset that I don't HAVE a verizon phone, and I thought that the fee for a person without a plan was different, and they only quoted that one price to me, but still! ".002 dollars per kilobyte, which is 2.05 dollars per megabyte"! <br />See? they CAN be taught!HaruMeihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16894816676076098715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-20129424680270365982010-04-02T12:41:50.724-07:002010-04-02T12:41:50.724-07:00Three words: Small Claims Court.Three words: Small Claims Court.David E. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09169209383111744552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-65940352901192348662009-12-15T20:27:13.180-08:002009-12-15T20:27:13.180-08:00My 12 year old sons understand this. I am glad to...My 12 year old sons understand this. I am glad to know they will do well in the world of business. I am sorry your very basic explanation was not basic enough for them.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11190208683035395040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-57415256709068188982009-11-28T03:04:21.800-08:002009-11-28T03:04:21.800-08:00what i wanna know is, did the company pay back all...what i wanna know is, did the company pay back all their clients? if not then is any court action taken to prevent them from acting?Nhilantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09950719165572508468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-89263898816025983622009-10-07T18:40:29.116-07:002009-10-07T18:40:29.116-07:00I have a better proof that $1 = 1¢!
Start with $1...I have a better proof that $1 = 1¢!<br /><br />Start with $1<br /><br />Now erase the "$" and add a "¢"<br /><br />1¢<br /><br />There you have it!<br />(Verizon should be nodding its head in agreement now)<br /><br />Anyway, go big with this! This should be more public. I'm definitely mentioning this on my blog, at least.Schrödinger's Cakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836462473972468193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-83374844746926803392009-09-01T23:11:58.628-07:002009-09-01T23:11:58.628-07:00Found this site eventually through http://jedidiah...Found this site eventually through http://jedidiah.stuff.gen.nz/wp/?p=7.<br /><br />First of all, very funny and sad at the same time. But I would have approached the explanation of the math in a different way.<br /><br />I would've asked the Verizon rep to multiply $0.002 by 1000 kilobytes and tell me the result. ($2)<br /><br />Then I would've asked them to multiple 0.002 cents by 1000 kilobytes and tell me the result. (2 cents)<br /><br />To go another step, I would tell them to multiply 0.002 cents by 10000 KB. "What if I'd only incurred 10000 KB? 10000 * 0.002 cents... 20 cents."<br /><br />Edge your way to 35k KB. "So if 10000 KB costs 20 cents, and I actually incurred three times as much, then I don't owe you a measly 20 cents, but 60 cents! Right? But you and I both know that's not the truth: I actually used 35 thousand KB which is... just 70 cents."whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03509697274023874760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-73942279571661130952009-08-21T00:59:02.586-07:002009-08-21T00:59:02.586-07:00Please say you went to court with this or somethin...Please say you went to court with this or something. I think there are some huge supreme court issues here.Saturn2888https://www.blogger.com/profile/14426744226575050812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-61347056202419850392009-07-04T15:19:18.888-07:002009-07-04T15:19:18.888-07:00For those that believe 0.002 cents is equal to 0.0...For those that believe 0.002 cents is equal to 0.002 dollars, I will do you a deal.<br /><br />I will give you 200,000,000 lots of 0.002 cents, if you will give me 100,000,000 lots of 0.002 dollars (half as many, so you are doubling your money if the two are really equivalent).xriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03234769414883407854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-84914327362402279822009-06-02T15:50:23.394-07:002009-06-02T15:50:23.394-07:00OMFG!!! I suck at math and get it right away! Man,...OMFG!!! I suck at math and get it right away! Man, maybe they should have child labor since they are hiring adults with the minds of children out of the womb.<br />They could save a bundle!!!!!Jenny in Wonderlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04672540822603217620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-36180145247637331042009-04-22T16:19:00.000-07:002009-04-22T16:19:00.000-07:00So, listening to the .002 cents vs. .002 dollars a...So, listening to the .002 cents vs. .002 dollars audio, it reminded me of something that I dealt with earlier this year. At my job, we ship out books. We are very concerned with the weight of the pallets. Anyway, these two women were wondering why there was a variance in the weight of a book. One scale said that the book weighed .7 pounds while the other said that it weighed 11.2 ounces, whereas it should weigh 7 ounces right? WRONG! I attempted (wasted twenty minutes of my life) trying to explain that there are not 10 ounces in a pound, rather 16; therefore, .7 pounds would equal 11.2 ounces. Even when I told them that .5 pounds equaled 8 ounces (which they understood), they could not comprehend that, in changing the units, 7 tenth of a pound equaled 7 tenth of 16 (11.2 ounces). This is very sad indeed.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03384872707949658061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-77843253992954264432009-04-10T23:17:00.000-07:002009-04-10T23:17:00.000-07:00http://xkcd.com/558/hahahahahttp://xkcd.com/558/<BR/><BR/>hahahahaUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13523716613420184143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-67135239818321765132009-03-25T22:09:00.000-07:002009-03-25T22:09:00.000-07:00You are correct but I think posting the recording ...You are correct but I think posting the recording to the internet was ingenious, entertaining, and exactly what Verizon deserved.MathChiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17556102998486596252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-65480973492817593352009-03-25T13:40:00.000-07:002009-03-25T13:40:00.000-07:00I think your original analysis of the function of ...I think your original analysis of the function of customer services reps is correct. They are just there to inform you of how it is going to be and convince to hang up without taking your complaint further. <BR/><BR/>That said, in such a case, your best way forward (other than posting a recording to the internet), would have been to ask them to connect into the call someone from their tech-support dept. My guess is someone in the IT field would have understood what you were explaining.Dan Grhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11560961071193599339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-33130668983037063342009-03-25T06:48:00.000-07:002009-03-25T06:48:00.000-07:00The tape was clear. The difference in the amounts...The tape was clear. The difference in the amounts was explained and explained again, multiple times, even to the 'supervisor'. <BR/><BR/>I teach 7th grade math in an urban environment. I presented the issue on the tape and the lowest students, who are functioning at a 3rd grade level, understood the problem.<BR/><BR/>From my experience with Verizon, there seems to be a systematic attempt to try to nickel and dime the customer. I have also had a frustrating conversation with a customer service agent where he tried to 'explain' to me why Verizon was overcharging me on my bill. He was obviously taking the party line, fed to him by Verizon. However, mathematically, what he was saying, was false and made no sense.<BR/>I finally had to say to him, "I have a degree in mathematics, I teach mathematics, and you don't have a clue about what you are talking about".<BR/>Then I switched to a different provider.MathChiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17556102998486596252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-54643309872183274002009-03-19T11:54:00.000-07:002009-03-19T11:54:00.000-07:00i listened for about 5 min. then realized i shoul...i listened for about 5 min. then realized i should put it on with yule log and just let it play while i cleaned up my room. Thanks for making a pleasent morning.Cameronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18225471727659974795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-91049624282364408952009-03-18T23:32:00.000-07:002009-03-18T23:32:00.000-07:00I have to comment on the 150% question. My first ...I have to comment on the 150% question. My first answer, straight off the bat, was $50,000. Then I reconsidered it and came up with $30,000. The OP intended it to be $50,000. Why was there any hesitation or ambiguity on my part?<BR/><BR/>WORDING. It is a word problem. Here is the problem my mind caught:<BR/><BR/>I make 150% MORE than what you make (original phrasing) = $50,000.<BR/><BR/>I make 150% OF what you make = $30,000.<BR/><BR/>The problem is that unless you go back and consciously think about the MORE, you may not get this problem right. Meaning it is about language and not math skills. The OP's language was correct for the answer he wanted. I am pointing this out as an example of, again, how verbal communication problems affect the outcome, not just math skills.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-85216841691165062972009-03-01T03:00:00.000-08:002009-03-01T03:00:00.000-08:00Wow. It's amazing how people can't tell the differ...Wow. It's amazing how people can't tell the difference between $.002 and ¢.002. I can understand that people freak out when they see fractions/decimals. But this is ridiculous.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00310328506142294586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-76911475835813910372009-02-23T12:43:00.000-08:002009-02-23T12:43:00.000-08:00Verizon took your advice. From their website:http:...Verizon took your advice. From their website:<BR/>http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=planFirst&action=viewPlanDetail&sortOption=priceSort&catId=409&typeId=5&subTypeId=13&lid=//global//plans//mobile+broadband+plan<BR/><BR/>ÈIn the Canadian Broadband and Canadian Enhanced Services Rate and Coverage Areas, usage will be charged at a rate of $0.002 per KB or $2.05 per MB.ÈUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08682765269234643250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-85818230089438217392009-02-20T17:11:00.000-08:002009-02-20T17:11:00.000-08:00.02 grams = .02 milligrams right?NOFor the retards....02 grams = .02 milligrams right?<BR/>NO<BR/><BR/>For the retards saying that .0002cents is the same .0002 dollars just because the of isn't there, are retarded.<BR/><BR/>You don't say .002 of a gram, you say .002 gram. which means the same thing. <BR/><BR/>I don't know who gave you the idea that you're not a complete retard but they were clearly mistaken, you are the dumbest person aliveQuickClickzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14423716293655951493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-26932733178558414902009-02-15T19:19:00.000-08:002009-02-15T19:19:00.000-08:00Jwinders... unfortunately some of your statements ...Jwinders... unfortunately some of your statements are mathematically incorrect.<BR/><BR/>" Also it takes .01 to in order to be a called singular cent correct?"<BR/><BR/>You haven't mentioned the units. '.01 of a dollar' is one cent.<BR/><BR/>"So to say it's 2/10 of a singular cent would be even better still than saying two one-thousands of a dollar."<BR/><BR/>This is correct.<BR/><BR/>"Notation dictates that the whole numbers (real numbers) are before the decimal (this thing-->. )..."<BR/><BR/>Whole numbers are positive integers. The category of 'real numbers' includes all numbers that are not imaginary.<BR/><BR/> "Two tenths(2/10) of a thousandth is denoted as .002."<BR/><BR/>Not true. 2/10 of 1/1000 is 2/10000, or 'two ten-thousandths'.<BR/><BR/>"Yes the clerk was some underpaid employee that didn't care about you or your phone plan, but never the less you are overlooking the fact that $11.001(in dollars)is still equivalent in numerical value as 1,000.10 pennies. The issue rises from your lack of clarity in your word play."<BR/><BR/>This is irrelevant. The mathematics in question is part of the curriculum in the United States in 5th, 6th and 7th grade so there is really no excuse that a clerk, hired to deal with these issues, is unable to do that level math. Moreover, the situation is perfectly clear. Shamefully, the Verizon clerks don't know what they are doing and are not even able to follow the logical argument that the caller repeatedly provides.<BR/><BR/>'Yes there is many unit conversion in physics and chemistry but not so much in accounting.'<BR/><BR/>This is just plain incorrect. The decimal system was used in money long before the metric system was invented.<BR/><BR/>Your arguments just reiterate the lack of basic mathematics comprehension of young people today. My 75 year-old mother who never went to college understands these concepts very clearly as did her father who only had a 4th grade education.MathChiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17556102998486596252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-516155314784643420.post-956401038687163092009-02-15T18:57:00.000-08:002009-02-15T18:57:00.000-08:00In your statement,"*everyone* who was quoted ...In your statement,"*everyone* who was quoted .002 cents and payed $0.002". What exactly is wrong with that statement? Yes the proper syntax would be to say ".002 of a cent", being 100 cents = 1.00 dollar right? Also it takes .01 to in order to be a called singular cent correct? So to say it's 2/10 of a singular cent would be even better still than saying two one-thousands of a dollar. Notation dictates that the whole numbers (real numbers) are before the decimal (this thing-->. ) and fractional values follow after in the form of tenths, hundredths, and thousands (ect..). Two tenths(2/10) of a thousandth is denoted as .002. Yes the clerk was some underpaid employee that didn't care about you or your phone plan, but never the less you are overlooking the fact that $11.001(in dollars)is still equivalent in numerical value as 1,000.10 pennies. The issue rises from your lack of clarity in your word play. If you feel this is wrong please reiterate your question of conversions. Yes there is many unit conversion in physics and chemistry but not so much in accounting.Jwindershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08690975024766584870noreply@blogger.com